Rfc5574
TitleRTP Payload Format for the Speex Codec
AuthorG. Herlein, J. Valin, A. Heggestad, A. Moizard
DateJune 2009
Format:TXT, HTML
Status:PROPOSED STANDARD






Network Working Group                                         G. Herlein
Request for Comments: 5574                                   Independent
Category: Standards Track                                       J. Valin
                                                     Xiph.Org Foundation
                                                            A. Heggestad
                                                             Creytiv.com
                                                              A. Moizard
                                                                 Antisip
                                                               June 2009


                 RTP Payload Format for the Speex Codec

Status of This Memo

   This document specifies an Internet standards track protocol for the
   Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions for
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   Official Protocol Standards" (STD 1) for the standardization state
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Abstract

   Speex is an open-source voice codec suitable for use in VoIP (Voice
   over IP) type applications.  This document describes the payload
   format for Speex-generated bit streams within an RTP packet.  Also
   included here are the necessary details for the use of Speex with the
   Session Description Protocol (SDP).












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Table of Contents


   1. Introduction ....................................................3
   2. Terminology .....................................................3
   3. RTP Usage for Speex .............................................3
      3.1. RTP Speex Header Fields ....................................3
      3.2. RTP Payload Format for Speex ...............................4
      3.3. Speex Payload ..............................................4
      3.4. Example Speex Packet .......................................5
      3.5. Multiple Speex Frames in an RTP Packet .....................5
   4. IANA Considerations .............................................6
      4.1. Media Type Registration ....................................6
           4.1.1. Registration of Media Type Audio/Speex ..............6
   5. SDP Usage of Speex ..............................................8
      5.1. Example Supporting All Modes, Prefer Mode 4 ...............10
      5.2. Example Supporting Only Modes 3 and 5 .....................10
      5.3. Example with Variable Bit-Rate and Comfort Noise ..........10
      5.4. Example with Voice Activity Detection .....................11
      5.5. Example with Multiple Sampling Rates ......................11
      5.6. Example with Ptime and Multiple Speex Frames ..............11
      5.7. Example with Complete Offer/Answer Exchange ...............12
   6. Implementation Guidelines ......................................12
   7. Security Considerations ........................................12
   8. Acknowledgments ................................................13
   9. References .....................................................13
      9.1. Normative References ......................................13
      9.2. Informative References ....................................13























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1.  Introduction

   Speex is based on the Code Excited Linear Prediction [CELP] encoding
   technique with support for either narrowband (nominal 8 kHz),
   wideband (nominal 16 kHz), or ultra-wideband (nominal 32 kHz).  The
   main characteristics can be summarized as follows:

   o  Free software/open-source

   o  Integration of wideband and narrowband in the same bit-stream

   o  Wide range of bit-rates available

   o  Dynamic bit-rate switching and variable bit-rate (VBR)

   o  Voice Activity Detection (VAD, integrated with VBR)

   o  Variable complexity

   The Speex codec supports a wide range of bit-rates from 2.15 kbit/s
   to 44 kbit/s.  In some cases however, it may not be possible for an
   implementation to include support for all rates (e.g., because of
   bandwidth or RAM or CPU constraints).  In those cases, to be
   compliant with this specification, implementations MUST support at
   least narrowband (8 kHz) encoding and decoding at 8 kbit/s bit-rate
   (narrowband mode 3).  Support for narrowband at 15 kbit/s (narrowband
   mode 5) is RECOMMENDED and support for wideband at 27.8 kbit/s
   (wideband mode 8) is also RECOMMENDED.  The sampling rate MUST be 8,
   16 or 32 kHz.  This specification defines only single channel audio
   (mono).

2.  Terminology

   The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT",
   "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this
   document are to be interpreted as described in RFC2119 [RFC2119] and
   indicate requirement levels for compliant RTP implementations.

3.  RTP Usage for Speex

3.1.  RTP Speex Header Fields

   The RTP header is defined in the RTP specification [RFC3550].  This
   section defines how fields in the RTP header are used.







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      Payload Type (PT):  The assignment of an RTP payload type for this
         packet format is outside the scope of this document; it is
         specified by the RTP profile under which this payload format is
         used, or signaled dynamically out-of-band (e.g., using SDP).

      Marker (M) bit:  The M bit is set to one on the first packet sent
         after a silence period, during which packets have not been
         transmitted contiguously.

      Extension (X) bit:  Defined by the RTP profile used.

      Timestamp:  A 32-bit word that corresponds to the sampling instant
         for the first frame in the RTP packet.

3.2.  RTP Payload Format for Speex

   The RTP payload for Speex has the format shown in Figure 1.  No
   additional header fields specific to this payload format are
   required.  For RTP-based transportation of Speex-encoded audio, the
   standard RTP header [RFC3550] is followed by one or more payload data
   blocks.  An optional padding terminator may also be used.

       0                   1                   2                   3
       0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
      |                         RTP Header                            |
      +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
      |                 one or more frames of Speex ....              |
      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
      |        one or more frames of Speex ....       |    padding    |
      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

                    Figure 1: RTP Payload for Speex

3.3.  Speex Payload

   For the purposes of packetizing the bit stream in RTP, it is only
   necessary to consider the sequence of bits as output by the Speex
   encoder [SPEEX], and present the same sequence to the decoder.  The
   payload format described here maintains this sequence.

   A typical Speex frame, encoded at the maximum bit-rate, is
   approximately 110 octets and the total number of Speex frames SHOULD
   be kept less than the path MTU to prevent fragmentation.  Speex
   frames MUST NOT be fragmented across multiple RTP packets.

   The Speex frames must be placed starting with the oldest frame and
   then continue consecutively in time.



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   An RTP packet MAY contain Speex frames of the same bit-rate or of
   varying bit-rates, since the bit-rate for a frame is conveyed in-band
   with the signal.

   The encoding and decoding algorithm can change the bit-rate at any 20
   msec frame boundary, with the bit-rate change notification provided
   in-band with the bit stream.  Each frame contains both sampling rate
   (narrowband, wideband, or ultra-wideband) and "mode" (bit-rate)
   information in the bit stream.  No out-of-band notification is
   required for the decoder to process changes in the bit-rate sent by
   the encoder.

   The sampling rate MUST be either 8000 Hz, 16000 Hz, or 32000 Hz.

   The RTP payload MUST be padded to provide an integer number of octets
   as the payload length.  These padding bits are LSB-aligned (Least
   Significant Bit) in network octet order and consist of a 0 followed
   by all ones (until the end of the octet).  This padding is only
   required for the last frame in the packet, and only to ensure the
   packet contents end on an octet boundary.

3.4.  Example Speex Packet

   In the example below, we have a single Speex frame with 5 bits of
   padding to ensure the packet size falls on an octet boundary.

      0                   1                   2                   3
      0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
     |                      RTP Header                               |
     +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
     |                        ..speex data..                         |
     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
     |                        ..speex data..               |0 1 1 1 1|
     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

3.5.  Multiple Speex Frames in an RTP Packet

   Below is an example of two Speex frames contained within one RTP
   packet.  The Speex frame length in this example falls on an octet
   boundary so there is no padding.

   The Speex decoder [SPEEX] can detect the bit-rate from the payload
   and is responsible for detecting the 20 msec boundaries between each
   frame.






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      0                   1                   2                   3
      0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
     |                      RTP Header                               |
     +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
     |                     ..speex frame 1..                         |
     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
     |       ..speex frame 1..       |      ..speex frame 2..        |
     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
     |                      ..speex frame 2..                        |
     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

4.  IANA Considerations

   This document defines the Speex media type.

4.1.  Media Type Registration

   This section describes the media types and names associated with this
   payload format.  The section registers the media types, as per RFC
   4288 [RFC4288].

4.1.1.  Registration of Media Type Audio/Speex

   Media type name: audio

   Media subtype name: speex

   Required parameters:

      rate:  RTP timestamp clock rate, which is equal to the sampling
         rate in Hz.  The sampling rate MUST be either 8000, 16000, or
         32000.

   Optional parameters:

      ptime:  SHOULD be a multiple of 20 msec [RFC4566]

      maxptime:  SHOULD be a multiple of 20 msec [RFC4566]

      vbr:  variable bit-rate - either 'on', 'off', or 'vad' (defaults
         to 'off').  If 'on', variable bit-rate is enabled.  If 'off',
         disabled.  If set to 'vad', then constant bit-rate is used, but
         silence will be encoded with special short frames to indicate a
         lack of voice for that period.  This parameter is a preference
         to the encoder.





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      cng:  comfort noise generation - either 'on' or 'off' (defaults to
         'off').  If 'off', then silence frames will be silent; if 'on',
         then those frames will be filled with comfort noise.  This
         parameter is a preference to the encoder.

      mode:  Comma-separated list of supported Speex decoding modes, in
         order of preference.  The first is the most preferred and the
         remaining is in decreasing order of preference.  The valid
         modes are different for narrowband and wideband, and are
         defined as follows:

         *  {1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,any} for narrowband

         *  {0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,any} for wideband and ultra-wideband

         The 'mode' parameters may contain multiple values.  In this
         case, the remote party SHOULD configure its encoder using the
         first supported mode provided.  When 'any' is used, the offerer
         indicates that it supports all decoding modes.  The 'mode'
         parameter value MUST always be quoted.  If the 'mode' parameter
         is not provided, the mode value is considered to be equivalent
         to 'mode="3,any"' in narrowband and 'mode="8,any"' in wideband
         and ultra-wideband.  Note that each Speex frame does contain
         the mode (or bit-rate) that should be used to decode it.  Thus,
         an application MUST be able to decode any Speex frame unless
         the SDP clearly specifies that some modes are not supported
         (e.g., by not including 'mode="any"').  Indicating support for
         a given set of decoding modes also implies that the
         implementation support the same encoding modes.

   Encoding considerations:

      This media type is framed and binary, see Section 4.8 in
      [RFC4288].

   Security considerations: See Section 6.

   Interoperability considerations:

      None.

   Published specification:

      RFC 5574.







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   Applications that use this media type:

      Audio streaming and conferencing applications.

   Additional information: none.

   Person and e-mail address to contact for further information:

      Alfred E. Heggestad: aeh@db.org

   Intended usage: COMMON

   Restrictions on usage:

      This media type depends on RTP framing, and hence is only defined
      for transfer via RTP [RFC3550].  Transport within other framing
      protocols is not defined at this time.

   Author: Alfred E. Heggestad

   Change controller:

      IETF Audio/Video Transport working group delegated from the IESG.

5.  SDP Usage of Speex

   The information carried in the media type specification has a
   specific mapping to fields in the Session Description Protocol (SDP)
   [RFC4566], which is commonly used to describe RTP sessions.  When SDP
   is used to specify sessions employing the Speex codec, the mapping is
   as follows:

   o  The media type ("audio") goes in SDP "m=" as the media name.

   o  The media subtype ("speex") goes in SDP "a=rtpmap" as the encoding
      name.  The required parameter "rate" also goes in "a=rtpmap" as
      the clock rate.

   o  The parameters "ptime" and "maxptime" go in the SDP "a=ptime" and
      "a=maxptime" attributes, respectively.

   o  Any remaining parameters go in the SDP "a=fmtp" attribute by
      copying them directly from the media type string as a semicolon-
      separated list of parameter=value pairs.







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   The tables below include the equivalence between modes and bit-rates
   for narrowband, wideband, and ultra-wideband.  Also, the
   corresponding "Speex quality" setting (see SPEEX_SET_QUALITY in the
   Speex Codec Manual [SPEEX]) is included as an indication.

                  +------+---------------+-------------+
                  | mode | Speex quality |   bit-rate  |
                  +------+---------------+-------------+
                  |   1  |       0       | 2.15 kbit/s |
                  |   2  |       2       | 5.95 kbit/s |
                  |   3  |     3 or 4    | 8.00 kbit/s |
                  |   4  |     5 or 6    | 11.0 kbit/s |
                  |   5  |     7 or 8    | 15.0 kbit/s |
                  |   6  |       9       | 18.2 kbit/s |
                  |   7  |      10       | 24.6 kbit/s |
                  |   8  |       1       | 3.95 kbit/s |
                  +------+---------------+-------------+

                 Table 1: Mode vs. Bit-Rate for Narrowband

   +------+---------------+-------------------+------------------------+
   | mode | Speex quality | wideband bit-rate |     ultra wideband     |
   |      |               |                   |        bit-rate        |
   +------+---------------+-------------------+------------------------+
   |   0  |       0       |    3.95 kbit/s    |       5.75 kbit/s      |
   |   1  |       1       |    5.75 kbit/s    |       7.55 kbit/s      |
   |   2  |       2       |    7.75 kbit/s    |       9.55 kbit/s      |
   |   3  |       3       |    9.80 kbit/s    |       11.6 kbit/s      |
   |   4  |       4       |    12.8 kbit/s    |       14.6 kbit/s      |
   |   5  |       5       |    16.8 kbit/s    |       18.6 kbit/s      |
   |   6  |       6       |    20.6 kbit/s    |       22.4 kbit/s      |
   |   7  |       7       |    23.8 kbit/s    |       25.6 kbit/s      |
   |   8  |       8       |    27.8 kbit/s    |       29.6 kbit/s      |
   |   9  |       9       |    34.2 kbit/s    |       36.0 kbit/s      |
   |  10  |       10      |    42.2 kbit/s    |       44.0 kbit/s      |
   +------+---------------+-------------------+------------------------+

        Table 2: Mode vs. Bit-Rate for Wideband and Ultra-Wideband

   The Speex parameters indicate the decoding capabilities of the agent,
   and what the agent prefers to receive.

   The Speex parameters in an SDP Offer/Answer exchange are completely
   orthogonal, and there is no relationship between the SDP Offer and
   the Answer.






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   Several Speex specific parameters can be given in a single a=fmtp
   line provided that they are separated by a semicolon:

             a=fmtp:97 mode="1,any";vbr=on

   Some example SDP session descriptions utilizing Speex encodings
   follow.

5.1.  Example Supporting All Modes, Prefer Mode 4

   The offerer indicates that it wishes to receive a Speex stream at
   8000 Hz, and wishes to receive Speex 'mode 4'.  It is important to
   understand that any other mode might still be sent by remote party:
   the device might have bandwidth limitation or might only be able to
   send 'mode="3"'.  Thus, applications that support all decoding modes
   SHOULD include 'mode="any"' as shown in the example below:

             m=audio 8088 RTP/AVP 97
             a=rtpmap:97 speex/8000
             a=fmtp:97 mode="4,any"

5.2.  Example Supporting Only Modes 3 and 5

   The offerer indicates the mode he wishes to receive (Speex 'mode 3').
   This offer indicates mode 3 and mode 5 are supported and that no
   other modes are supported.  The remote party MUST NOT configure its
   encoder using another Speex mode.

             m=audio 8088 RTP/AVP 97
             a=rtmap:97 speex/8000
             a=fmtp:97 mode="3,5"

5.3.  Example with Variable Bit-Rate and Comfort Noise

   The offerer indicates that it wishes to receive variable bit-rate
   frames with comfort noise:

             m=audio 8088 RTP/AVP 97
             a=rtmap:97 speex/8000
             a=fmtp:97 vbr=on;cng=on











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5.4.  Example with Voice Activity Detection

   The offerer indicates that it wishes to use silence suppression.  In
   this case, the vbr=vad parameter will be used:

             m=audio 8088 RTP/AVP 97
             a=rtmap:97 speex/8000
             a=fmtp:97 vbr=vad

5.5.  Example with Multiple Sampling Rates

   The offerer indicates that it wishes to receive Speex audio at 16000
   Hz with mode 10 (42.2 kbit/s) or, alternatively, Speex audio at 8000
   Hz with mode 7 (24.6 kbit/s).  The offerer supports decoding all
   modes.

             m=audio 8088 RTP/AVP 97 98
             a=rtmap:97 speex/16000
             a=fmtp:97 mode="10,any"
             a=rtmap:98 speex/8000
             a=fmtp:98 mode="7,any"

5.6.  Example with Ptime and Multiple Speex Frames

   The "ptime" SDP attribute is used to denote the packetization
   interval (i.e., how many milliseconds of audio is encoded in a single
   RTP packet).  Since Speex uses 20 msec frames, ptime values of
   multiples of 20 denote multiple Speex frames per packet.  It is
   recommended to use ptime values that are a multiple of 20.

   If ptime contains a value that is not multiple of 20, the internal
   interpretation of it should be rounded up to the nearest multiple of
   20 before the number of Speex frames is calculated.  For example, if
   the "ptime" attribute is set to 30, the internal interpretation
   should be rounded up to 40 and then used to calculate two Speex
   frames per packet.

   In the example below, the ptime value is set to 40, indicating that
   there are two frames in each packet.

             m=audio 8088 RTP/AVP 97
             a=rtpmap:97 speex/8000
             a=ptime:40

   Note that the ptime parameter applies to all payloads listed in the
   media line and is not used as part of an a=fmtp directive.





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   Care must be taken when setting the value of ptime so that the RTP
   packet size does not exceed the path MTU.

5.7.  Example with Complete Offer/Answer Exchange

   The offerer indicates that it wishes to receive Speex audio at 16000
   Hz or, alternatively, Speex audio at 8000 Hz.  The offerer does
   support ALL modes because no mode is specified.

             m=audio 8088 RTP/AVP 97 98
             a=rtmap:97 speex/16000
             a=rtmap:98 speex/8000

   The answerer indicates that it wishes to receive Speex audio at 8000
   Hz, which is the only sampling rate it supports.  The answerer does
   support ALL modes because no mode is specified.

             m=audio 8088 RTP/AVP 99
             a=rtmap:99 speex/8000

6.  Implementation Guidelines

   Implementations that support Speex are responsible for correctly
   decoding incoming Speex frames.

   Each Speex frame does contain all needed information to decode
   itself.  In particular, the 'mode' and 'ptime' values proposed in the
   SDP contents MUST NOT be used for decoding: those values are not
   needed to properly decode a RTP Speex stream.

7.  Security Considerations

   RTP packets using the payload format defined in this specification
   are subject to the security considerations discussed in the RTP
   specification [RFC3550], and any appropriate RTP profile.  This
   implies that confidentiality of the media streams is achieved by
   encryption.  Because the data compression used with this payload
   format is applied end-to-end, encryption may be performed after
   compression so there is no conflict between the two operations.

   A potential denial-of-service threat exists for data encodings using
   compression techniques that have non-uniform receiver-end
   computational load.  The attacker can inject pathological datagrams
   into the stream that are complex to decode and cause the receiver to
   be overloaded.  However, this encoding does not exhibit any
   significant non-uniformity.





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   As with any IP-based protocol, in some circumstances, a receiver may
   be overloaded simply by the receipt of too many packets, either
   desired or undesired.  Network-layer authentication may be used to
   discard packets from undesired sources, but the processing cost of
   the authentication itself may be too high.

8.  Acknowledgments

   The authors would like to thank Equivalence Pty Ltd of Australia for
   their assistance in attempting to standardize the use of Speex in
   H.323 applications, and for implementing Speex in their open-source
   OpenH323 stack.  The authors would also like to thank Brian C. Wiles
   <brian@streamcomm.com> of StreamComm for his assistance in developing
   the proposed standard for Speex use in H.323 applications.

   The authors would also like to thank the following members of the
   Speex and AVT communities for their input: Ross Finlayson, Federico
   Montesino Pouzols, Henning Schulzrinne, Magnus Westerlund, Colin
   Perkins, and Ivo Emanuel Goncalves.

   Thanks to former authors of this document; Simon Morlat, Roger
   Hardiman, and Phil Kerr.

9.  References

9.1.  Normative References

   [RFC2119]  Bradner, S., "Key words for use in RFCs to Indicate
              Requirement Levels", BCP 14, RFC 2119, March 1997.

   [RFC3550]  Schulzrinne, H., Casner, S., Frederick, R., and V.
              Jacobson, "RTP: A Transport Protocol for Real-Time
              Applications", STD 64, RFC 3550, July 2003.

   [RFC4566]  Handley, M., Jacobson, V., and C. Perkins, "SDP: Session
              Description Protocol", RFC 4566, July 2006.

9.2.  Informative References

   [CELP]     Schroeder, M. and B. Atal, "Code-excited linear
              prediction(CELP): High-quality speech at very low bit
              rates", Proc. International Conference on Acoustics,
              Speech, and Signal Processing (ICASSP), Vol 10, pp. 937-
              940, 1985, <http://www.ntis.gov/>.

   [RFC4288]  Freed, N. and J. Klensin, "Media Type Specifications and
              Registration Procedures", BCP 13, RFC 4288, December 2005.




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   [SPEEX]    Valin, J., "The Speex Codec Manual",
              <http://www.speex.org/docs/>.

Authors' Addresses

   Greg Herlein
   Independent
   2034 Filbert Street
   San Francisco, California  94123
   United States

   EMail: gherlein@herlein.com


   Jean-Marc Valin
   Xiph.Org Foundation

   EMail: jean-marc.valin@usherbrooke.ca


   Alfred E. Heggestad
   Creytiv.com
   Biskop J. Nilssonsgt. 20a
   Oslo  0659
   Norway

   EMail: aeh@db.org


   Aymeric Moizard
   Antisip
   5 Place Benoit Crepu
   Lyon,   69005
   France

   EMail: jack@atosc.org